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    Review - Dan John - Intervention

    [align=center:1bxy7wfp]Who is this guy and what is this product?

    Dan John:

    Dan John has been teaching and coaching for well over thirty years. He is the former Strength Coach and Head Track and Field Coach at Juan Diego Catholic High School in Draper, Utah He remains a full-time on-line religious studies instructor for Columbia College of Missouri and contributing writer to Men's Health. Originally from South San Francisco, Dan came to Utah to throw the discus for Utah State University and recently returned "home" after 35 years away. He currently lives in Burlingame, California.
    Intervention



    What does this product claim?

    You have two choices:
    Be lucky enough in middle school, junior high or early high school to be taught the step-by-step instructions in the Olympic lifts, powerlifting, kettlebells, tumbling, flexibility, mobility and basic body movements
    Apply Intervention
    For most of us, it is option two.
    And that is what makes Dan John popular: With a simple tool kit of questions and ideas, he can cut through all the clutter and nail down what YOU need to do to improve your fitness, health and performance.

    Prepare yourself for at least one moment of I can't believe I ignored this! and several moments of Well, of course...but why don't I do this?
    Intervention is literally taking the time to stop and rethink your approach to training. In addition, you will have clarity in helping others attain their goals and dreams. Oh, it's simple. But it is not easy! This is the tool kit to take you from "here to there" in the exercise world.

    This is a 3-disc DVD set, 3.5 hours of lecture, and includes Dan's handouts and an expanded thoughts PDF of his writing since filming the workshop.

    Plus, a transcript of the lecture and an MP3 audio file of the full workshop is included on the DVD!

    Where can I get it and how much does it cost?
    $129.00 at DaveDraper.com

    $129.00 at Amazon.com

    $20.00 per file (4 files total) as a download at e-junkie[/align:1bxy7wfp]

    Review:

    Product Generalities:
    I used the downloadable option to purchase this series. The payment options are the purchasers choice of google checkout or paypal. I used google checkout and as a first time user am pleased to report it worked like a champ. I ordered my items and was downloading within a minute. I can't comment on the download speed capabilities of the service itself because I'm not in an ideal "downloading" situation. That aside my personal download took a considerable bit of time BUT the connection held strong with a consistent download rate and didn't error\time out despite the 4 simultaneous 1.25GB downloads for several hours. The downloads themselves being three MP4 "dvd's" and an "extras disk" which includes handouts and an MP3 version of the lecture.

    I viewed the videos using my happy little 11" monitor which may not be the best for a description of video quality but for my purposes it looked nice. The audio quality was clear and consistent. The production value was easily the best that I've personally seen on this style of product with clear transitions when needed and more subtle ones when I'm assuming there were some dead points, rambling, or stupid questions. Additionally when Dan was lecturing and would mention "something" a reference would appear on screen allowing you to follow up on that particular concept if desired and if the action was a little too hot and fast while Dan was speaking a little reference bar would appear on the side of the screen allowing the watcher to mentally catch back up with exactly what is being discussed at the moment.

    This is clearly the direction that should be taken on this style of presentation and gets a "job well done" from me.

    Notes:

    I won't attempt to hide my personal bias. I'm a fan of Dan John's teaching\coaching. I find him humorous, engaging and most importantly relevant. That said I approached this set with a bit of hesitation. Having read numerous an article and his 4 DVD lecture a person has to ask themselves if there's going to be some overlap in here? At what point do you go from attempting to distribute information you believe to be valuable to becoming a spray tanned whoremonger peddling snake pills *cough* anaconda *cough* with the promises of improving some naive kid's bench press 100lbs in 3 days? Well I'm not exactly sure when you make that transition because not only do the products themselves improve in terms of presentation and quality; there was very little if any overlap with the previous DVD set. The two products complement each other well which I found a pleasant change of pace.

    As mentioned above you have the option of purchasing this series individually or as a set. The series itself is presented as a toolkit that Dan uses when addressing a new trainee and whatever issues said person brings to the party. Notice the phrasing of that last sentence if you will. The tools presented in the series go beyond programming itself and start "at the beginning". Does this person have any business starting a new exercise program? This is the primary objective of disk 1.

    [align=center:1bxy7wfp]Disc One: 75 minutes
    Introduction to Intervention
    The Health Lights System
    The Fitness Spiral
    Absolute Strength
    The Impact of a Strength Coach
    Qualities
    Quadrants[/align:1bxy7wfp]
    It's kind of silly to approach health\fitness in a manner of "you've got other things you need to address before you worry about your butt being too big", but there's wisdom in there of addressing the house burning down around you before worrying about whether you should jog for 2.8 or 2.9 miles today.

    Additional items covered is the context by which the rest of the series will be discussed. Definitions and concepts of health\fitness and what a strength coach is\does and how you can break trainees down into a select set of predefined areas. I'm a big fan of fitness boards because I find the different concepts and approaches that people take interesting. Sometimes though I feel a bit like Inigo Montoya when he says "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." After you watch DVD 1, you know what Dan means when he says a word and there's value in that.
    [align=center:1bxy7wfp]Disc Two: 67 minutes
    Age: Hypertrophy & Joint Mobility
    Basic Human Movements
    Patterning
    HATE, Hinge Assessment Tool
    Squat Patterning
    Loaded Carries
    Slow Strength, Grinds
    Standards
    The Four Steps
    Asymmetrical Training[/align:1bxy7wfp]
    DVD 2 moves into programming concepts and trainee assessment. The concepts above are present the viewer with a broad principle of training via individual cornerstone. "This is what training is" and "this is how you know how to apply it to each trainee".

    [align=center:1bxy7wfp]Disc Three: 70 minutes
    The Triad Combinations
    Testing
    Rep Rules
    Corrective Exercises
    Scheduling Correctives, Strength and Skills
    Programming the Elements
    Example of Programming for an Elite Athlete
    Other Programming Examples
    Practicing Intervention
    The Warmups
    The Intervention Tool Kit[/align:1bxy7wfp]
    DVD 3 begins putting the rubber to the road with the actual program design concepts using the tools presented in the previous discs. One sort of "stand out" section of this disc is a pretty considerable amount of time discussing real life examples. "This is person X. This is their story. What would you do?" If you hadn't begun to think about it before that point, it's an interesting little exercise that will better enable you to use the tools that you've already been provided.

    For the download club (also on the hard discs), you have the "extras" which include the MP3 (consistent if not a touch muffled), a full transcript of the event and multiple handouts discussing or providing examples of once concept or another. This one is a little tricky for me personally. I see it as something that for 20 bucks you can get a great deal of value out of since pure information wise it's robust. On the other hand if you have the other DVD's its value is diminished. Some of the handouts are pretty weak and while having a full transcript via audio and on paper is cool, are you really going to use both? I think it's a great idea to include it, but as a customer it doesn't sway my recommendation one way or the other. The 17pg handout "expanding on intervention" had some interesting additions particularly expanding on the "spiral" concept.

    Is this for me?:

    The more advanced you are training wise and the more people you work with, the more you're going to appreciate this product. Dan is enjoyable and effective presenting his training design concepts. If you're someone who's on a program quest, you're going to be pissy after you buy this. If you're someone with a reasonable training background that wants to employ the methodology of someone with decades of experience training an entire range of personnel then Dan John's Intervention is an easy recommendation.

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    I was lucky enough to see Dan at the recent Perform Better Summit. I got a live version of much of "Intervention," got the DVD and gave it a run through AND took the mp3 on the road. I found that I got something extra out of just hearing it, and it was nice to have the transcript to go back to for notes (I'm not much of a note taker).

    I hear you on the fourth download, but they should have had you buy three for $27 each and get the fourth included for free. That's the feeling with the DVD set; you are getting three DVDs, and we're throwing in these extras to allow you the notes and chance to review the content whenever and where ever you like.

    I also agree on the production quality. Very high quality and multiple cameras. Good sound, good pop up tips/notes, and great editing. Very well done!

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    I enjoyed it a lot but it took a bit of getting used to at first. The initial intro part left me with no idea where Dan was going with the material. In fact, the entire first disk turned out to be the intro to the whole program. After watching it, I still wasn't sure where it was going until I watched the second disk. I took almost no notes during the first disk, but was scribbling furiously during the second. My impression was that the disks are best viewed in a single sitting, but that's hard to do for three hours straight for some of us.

    I'm a big fan of Dan's but I struggled with some of his examples. He seemed to take it for granted that the audience knew all of the things he mentioned but I found I didn't. The approach was very casual but missing the off hand references was frustrating, especially considering how much this cost.

    On a positive note, the material is like Dan John's magnum opus -- this is his roadmap to nearly everything. He gives a system in which soccer moms looking to lose a few pounds fit at one end of the spectrum and Olympic athletes are at the other and he lays out a progression for getting novices up to that level. All the pieces mentioned in the review above are the tools necessary and they are brilliant.

    On the negative side, I think this set is simply too pricey. Granted the production values are there, it's great material, and the MP3, etc. was thrown in. But at the end of the day, the price is beyond what I think most people would be willing to pay for a three hour lecture DVD. I think this set is only for us hard core loyalists but maybe that's okay too.

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    You've got some valid praise and criticism. The biggest thing with pricing for me (outside of a pretty big difference between the soft\hard versions) is the intent of the user. If you're a casual trainee you're probably not going to get half of what's being talked about because there's a lot of subtlety and it's a lot of money compared to any number of books or internet programs\articles that might give a lot more return for your particular needs.

    If you're someone that works with clients though, I think there's going to be some return on investment. There's a ton of information across the entire gamut of "what the trainee needs". Being able to identify and react appropriately, you may very well save a client\get more results\referrals. How many extra sessions does it take to make up 80 bucks? Depending on what you're doing...one?

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    I think it's the closest to attending a Dan John seminar that you can come, and those are a lot more than $80.

    I do think that new and more casual trainees might be overwhelmed and not need this level of info. For them, I'd recommend starting with his book, Never Let Go and one or more of his training DVDs, which are great stuff.

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    The audio download is $20, and with that you get a pdf transcript of the text, plus a bunch of other related pdfs and programs.

    Great info.

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