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    Found some old pictures. Had a good laugh and thought I'd share my lifting journey, which I began lifting in 2005.:

    120lbs before lifting (face is blacked out because I had it on another forum, laptop crapped out and I saved them to my new laptop):


    2007, around 150lbs-still barely ate, didn't lift consistently, partied, etc


    Around August, 2007 I decided enough games, time to grow up and hit my goals. I went on a full-on bulk until early this year.

    2009 during bulk (205lbs)


    2010 during bulk (210 lbs)


    The bulk cost me by adding a lot of bodyfat; I got up to a 38" waist! At the beginning of this year, I decided it was time to cut. I ran a cycle of M-drol (methasterone, a designer steroid) and began my cut.

    During cut, jan this year(170lbs):


    Then I ran Anadrol (oxymetholone) for a few weeks, and thus bringing me to a pic from yesterday (185lbs):



    Now I'm back to bulking so I can reach my final goal at a lean 195. It was an awesome 6 years of hard work and learning. I'm ready to get to my goal so I can just maintain, lol!

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    BLZ
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    Quite the transformation...good job! Do you use anything during your bulks?

    How'd you like that anadrol? I know a lot of powerlifters who use it for 2-3 weeks leading up to their meet....gets them real mean, haha.

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    Stayed natty for bulk.

    The anadrol didn't give me explosive weight gain like with a lot of people; it did make my strength skyrocket though and actually helped me to lose fat. I wasn't mean at all on it, lol.

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    BLZ
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    Hmmm...maybe powerlifters dose it differently, really don't know too much about that one at all.

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    Steroids that was your answer to becoming strong and big? Since you were 150 when you began doing illegal drugs does that mean you will be that same 150lb'er once your clean? 210 with 38 inch waist is big! Maybe it's was a roid belly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by "fatman":2vz6erck
    Steroids that was your answer to becoming strong and big? Since you were 150 when you began doing illegal drugs does that mean you will be that same 150lb'er once your clean? 210 with 38 inch waist is big! Maybe it's was a roid belly?

    Uh, did you even read what he posted? He cycled twice while he was cutting and is clean now. You obviously don't know much about them to even say "maybe it was a roid belly." The term "roid belly" isn't even a real thing. There's a lot of different steroids out there and quite a few that don't cause bloat.

    You've made it clear that you don't like them, don't agree with them, whatever, and that's fine. Your morals are your morals. But if you wanna give others shit for using, maybe learn what you're talking about first.

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    BLZ your right I don't care for them and two it was a question. Just like the one that says if he was 150 when he started would he be 150'ish when he got off. Also it does not say "I am 100% clean now and or have stopped taking roids" so again how was I to know if he was drug free ? Also it's says "I was 170 did an anabolic steroid and you get a picture of yesterday at 185" that does not sound drug free to me . As for the roid belly and me learning that what questions are for, for me to LEAN! Some one takes drugs, and puts on 55lb one would guess its from the drugs. There for the question a raises may be it was a roid belly? One more time for you it's called a question and that's how you LEARN? When someone adds a "?" it implies a question. There is no word if he took them at any point while bulking so that's why I asked, so I can learn.

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    Just like the one that says if he was 150 when he started would he be 150'ish when he got off.
    He didn't use during the bulk, and he used steroids to cut. So no, he wouldn't go back to 150 unless he pretty much quit training all together and ate at a deficit for quite a while.


    Also it does not say "I am 100% clean now and or have stopped taking roids" so again how was I to know if he was drug free ? Also it's says "I was 170 did an anabolic steroid and you get a picture of yesterday at 185" that does not sound drug free to me .
    Mast - "ran a cycle"...means he did it for a set period of time.
    Anadrol - "did a few weeks"....means he did it for a set period of time.

    Post #3 said he was clean during the (original) bulk.


    As for the roid belly and me learning that what questions are for, for me to LEAN! Some one takes drugs, and puts on 55lb one would guess its from the drugs.
    If you look at the dates on the pictures, there was 4 years between 155 and 210. Gaining 55 pounds in 4 years is not AT ALL an indicator of steroid use, and he clearly indicated that he used the steroids *after* the initial weight gain to cut.

    Throwing around the term "roid belly" when you've made it clear in this thread and elsewhere that you're not a fan of steroids implies that you're using the term in a demeaning way. Eating, lifting, and gaining weight to the point that you get a little fat - that's kinda just how bulking and cutting works for a lot of people (whether you use steroids to do it or not).


    One more time for you it's called a question and that's how you LEARN? When someone adds a "?" it implies a question. There is no word if he took them at any point while bulking so that's why I asked, so I can learn.
    Forgive me for assuming your post was meant to be condescending when you started it with "Steroids was your answer to becoming strong and big?" Since, 1. His posts were pretty clear that he didn't use during his original bulk and 2. No where did he say that steroids were "the answer" to anything. Giving one's own personal experience is not the same as telling others "this is the right way to do things."

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    Well that is what is funny about typing of texting everyone interprets the words differently. Your right I don't care for the use of steroids out side of medical reason, but I was in no way being negative towards Fulman or his thread. They were just question that came to mind,nothing more.

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    Wow, shoulda checked back on this thread sooner, lol. Thanks btw, BLZ.

    As far as your learning goes fatman, I'll do my best to explain.

    For the first two years, from '05 to '07, I was on my own with nothing but books and the internet, and even back then there was a lot of bullshit.

    I tried a myriad of eating habits, and I even remember eating my meal for supper during this time period for several months was grilled unseasoned chicken strips and turnip greens (I will never eat plain grilled chicken so long as I got a choice). I ate pretty damn clean, but not a lot. I was also working 55+ hours of manual labor outside. This burned calories pretty extensively.

    Needless to say, even WITH newbie gains, I only gained 30lbs (with a bit of fat) in 2 years.

    Then in 2007, I said fuck it-it's time to get huge. So I ate. I ate everything I could. For a period of a year plus I ate ice cream after every lifting day just to get more calories.

    From 2007 to the end of 2010, I force fed. Let me tell you-nothing sucks MORE than force feeding; you're eating with your woman at a restaurant, and you're sweating and your bloated because you're full and STILL eating. One time, me and my wife went to IHOP (gf then), and I remember once spending around 50 bucks just on myself at IHOP.

    For a period of time I would hit 350+ grams of protein daily and try hard to hit 4-5k calories...I would even drink soda, eat two Triple Whoppers with fries, 2lbs and more of beef, 400+grams of carbs.

    Try to eat all that protein, carbs, and calories and see if you don't get a fat 38" waist or bigger. I wish I had steroids during my bulk; if that were the case my waist wouldn't have been half as big.

    In other words, no; I did not have a "roid belly"-which, by the way, is caused by the use of GH and insulin, two things I've never had access to/want to do. The correct term would be "gh gut".

    And with that said, at the beginning of this year, I was sick of being fat so I decided to go on a cut. I used M-drol for around 7 weeks and the fat just melted off (of course, I was in a calorie deficit-around 2-2,300 calories, 250g Protein, 150-200g carbs). A few weeks to cut down several years worth of fat was nice.

    However, my strength did suffer due to being in a deficit, and I looked a little flat (probably due to depleted glycogen), so I got on Anadrol in October and ran it for 6 weeks. It got my strength back up (and then some), as well as put 10lbs on me.

    Now I'm clean (for I don't know how long ).

    Hopefully that helps you with any questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "BLZ":3gjb3b4n
    Hmmm...maybe powerlifters dose it differently, really don't know too much about that one at all.
    Well, my body just responded differently to it. I didn't have massive water bloat..I only gained around 10lbs on it. My strength gains didn't even kick in until the 3rd week, but man did I gain some strength on it.

    I've heard of some PLers dosing it around 200-250mgs..I stuck with 100-150mgs.

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    Good work Fulmen. And props to you for being so open about your cycle experiments. I personally don't have a problem with it. I have trained many an athlete both natural and "not"... I have seen them work very well, and I have seen people use them who weren't smart about it and really screw themselves up. Sounds like you're doing your homework before you go taking anything, and most importantly, you're working hard in the gym, which is where it counts in the end. One could take vitamin S all day long but not see any difference if they weren't challenging their muscle and regularly.

    I'm personally too old to "bulk" and "lean out" anymore... It's hard on my body and I get really depressed when I look fat, so for me I have found that it is best to just try to keep the same body year around. For the most part my workouts are "functional" (bands, KBs, sand bags, barbells, body weight exercises, etc), but I haven't really noticed it having a negative effect on the mass in my shoulders/arms/leg. I did spend about 3 months doing the conditioning protocol on my ARP POV exclusively and that did yield some pretty good results, but most of what it did was restore some old, long-dormant muscle in my shoulders.

    I just weighed yesterday at 205. I have no idea what my body fat is, but it looks pretty similar to yours. I'd estimate around 12%. I'd like to weigh around 185-190 if I could lose just a little more body fat, but I'm not willing to go into a deficit for an extended period as that is too much stress on my body with all the other stuff I have to keep up with these days.

    I know that you were kind of old school in your programs from our discussions during the time that you worked for me. What kind of program are you doing now? Did you change your regimen while you were bulking/cutting?

    Keep up the hard work and keep this thread updated.

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    I'm personally too old to "bulk" and "lean out" anymore... It's hard on my body and I get really depressed when I look fat, so for me I have found that it is best to just try to keep the same body year around.
    I know you said you're too old to lean out, but you did great gaining mass and getting leaner. In fact, if there weren't so much on your plate, I know you could. We are around the same body fat; my problem is I always want to bulk again and stop cutting..but I started IF last Sunday and I'm sticking to it until I get shredded. I plan an another cycle to speed the fat loss and keep my from losing muscle (and/or gain extra lbm).

    I know that you were kind of old school in your programs from our discussions during the time that you worked for me. What kind of program are you doing now? Did you change your regimen while you were bulking/cutting?
    Haha, definitely old school, and definitely was in a learning stage at that time period (I even did full body for a few months that year). Since 2008, I've stuck to this for the majority of the time:
    Day 1-Chest/Back
    Day 2-Arms
    Day 3-Shoulders/Core
    Day 4-Legs
    Day 5 Repeat or rest
    Day 6-Repear or rest

    "Repeat" means hitting a body part again, or if I'm busy I'll use it as a rest day. I prefer to lift Monday-Sat with a rest day on Wednesday and Sunday. However, that doesn't always happen. Sometimes, I may even hit just once body part a day and use up my rest days. Depends on how busy I am.

    As far as reps and sets go, I hit all rep ranges to take advantage of both myofibrillar and sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. If my goal is strength (like in bench press), the majority of my sets are lower reps, with only a couple being higher reps (namely warm-up and very last set being higher rep). I normally hit 22-25 sets per lifting day.

    I did not change the routine during the cut, but there were some days my strength suffered.

    Keep up your hard work as well!

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    IDK if you mentioned this already but was wondering how tall you are.

    ETA: I applaud your honesty about using some 'juice' to help you achieve your fitness goals. While I would never use 'that' myself, I also am not one to judge someone as everyone is an individual, you know?

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    5'7, I sit around 174lbs currently

    Thanks..my size goals require a little "assistance", lol. In fact, I'm pretty close to my goal. Just need to get a little bit leaner, and arms a little bigger. Here's the around my ideal size goal (early Sergio Oliva from 1967):



    I pretty much hate the post 70's-early 80s bodybuilder look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Fulmen":1la0nzkw
    5'7, I sit around 174lbs currently

    Thanks..my size goals require a little "assistance", lol. In fact, I'm pretty close to my goal. Just need to get a little bit leaner, and arms a little bigger. Here's the around my ideal size goal (early Sergio Oliva from 1967):



    I pretty much hate the post 70's-early 80s bodybuilder look.
    Flumen it would be wicked if the juice could give you that dudes hair to!!!!!

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