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    Is there any shame using.....

    After whining, pouting and being a totally depressed wife who after a year of life changing strength training could not produce ONE chin-up, my hubby consulted with a trainer at his office and bought a very large elastic band.

    The band is green in color and when attached to my chin-up bar sticks out like a sore thumb.

    I know he meant well, but does anyone on the forum think it will get me there? Or will it be a crutch I will forever need?

    C

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    Is there any shame using.....

    Bands are used a lot. Nothing wrong with them.

    Why wouldn't it get you there? It gives you an assist by effectively removing some of your weight, so that you can train to do the pullups while actually doing pullups (rather than using an assisted machine, using a lat machine, doing pullovers, or any number of other things that "work the same muscles" and yet aren't *quite* like actual pullups.

    The point is to use the band you need, and use a band with less resistance as your weight increase. There's no more shame in using a band for assistance than lifting a lighter weight for any other exercise. Are you also gonna not deadlift 125 because it's not 135 and it's a "crutch"?

    Now quit yer bitchin, swallow your pride, and go work on your damn pullups.

    :tongue

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    Is there any shame using.....

    Quote Originally Posted by "Aoife":3f9gz3v1
    Bands are used a lot. Nothing wrong with them.

    Why wouldn't it get you there? It gives you an assist by effectively removing some of your weight, so that you can train to do the pullups while actually doing pullups (rather than using an assisted machine, using a lat machine, doing pullovers, or any number of other things that "work the same muscles" and yet aren't *quite* like actual pullups.

    The point is to use the band you need, and use a band with less resistance as your weight increase. There's no more shame in using a band for assistance than lifting a lighter weight for any other exercise. Are you also gonna not deadlift 125 because it's not 135 and it's a "crutch"?

    Now quit yer bitchin, swallow your pride, and go work on your damn pullups.

    :tongue
    Thanks for the cold hard truth!!!! No more bitchin here....assisted chin-ups here I come

    Thanks for setting me straight

    C

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    Is there any shame using.....

    It is a fair question, though. I mean, the assisted machine is touted as something that would get you there… the lat pulldown… but there's enough of a difference that if someone is teetering, they can't necessarily make it over. Hell, I've done pulldowns with well more than my bodyweight, from a kneeling position even, and still couldn't do a pullup at the same time.

    There are other methods people use that don't use bands, but they're all still variations on walking up to a pullup bar and doing pullups of some sort, be it negatives, towels, partials, etc.

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    Is there any shame using.....

    Civil - I'm also struggling with my chin-up bar at home. I can always manage to do 1 (with a little jump) but then there is no way I can do anymore. It's been like that for months though I've been making good progress in the gym. I think I'm also going to get an elastic band and train to do more than 1 at a time. I think what Aoife said makes perfect sense:

    Quote Originally Posted by "Aoife":23gu7xj2
    ...so that you can train to do the pullups while actually doing pullups (rather than using an assisted machine, using a lat machine, doing pullovers, or any number of other things that "work the same muscles" and yet aren't *quite* like actual pullups.
    :tongue
    Can I tell you that when I see my 8 year doing 8 pull-ups in a row I get totally jealous?

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    Is there any shame using.....

    As I told you in your earlier chin-up thread.....that's what helped me the most.l

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    Is there any shame using.....

    Quote Originally Posted by "missjane":18std5lu
    As I told you in your earlier chin-up thread.....that's what helped me the most.l
    I have been using your advice from the previous thread since the start of P2 daily and I will continue to use it. I believe it is sound advice and from how my body is reacting, DOMS, it appears to be working .

    In addition I will incorporate the band on the actual chin-up days. Does it matter if my knee or foot is in the band?


    C

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    Is there any shame using.....

    I've done both, but usually use my knee. If you use your foot, you get more help...with the knee...less.

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    Is there any shame using.....

    I bought 2 sizes of bands when I started - One thick and one thinner in anticipation. I have used both for a LONG time. Even though I was powering my deadlifts, squats, etc. I just couldn't master the chin-up but I kept at it. I also added in some work with negatives, etc. and FINALLY I can do 2-3 (depending on what else I'm doing that day and how I feel). I still use the bands to finish out higher rep sets, and always add some negatives. In addition to being able to do the exercise unassisted as a goal, I also want to get the benefits of doing the exercise so I like using the bands for volume when needed.

    Anyway, short answer is - they work! And they work WAY better than the machine I think. That would have been a crutch.

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    Is there any shame using.....

    Quote Originally Posted by "Scubachick":2gvrelv7
    Can I tell you that when I see my 8 year doing 8 pull-ups in a row I get totally jealous?
    When I remember the last time I could do a pullup I wasn't much more than 8 years old I get totally jealous of my young self who had no idea how damn awesome she was cuz she could.

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    Is there any shame using.....

    I cannot believe how encouraging it is to use the band and achieve both regular and negative chin- ups. I can truly see progression in my future.

    I am so stoked!!

    Another positive side effect is that my right elbow is not causing excruciating pain as it was when I did NRoL4W.

    C

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