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    Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    I didn't realize "Big Lifts" was "Wendler 531" rebranded. Interesting.

    I'm surprise Rippetoe isn't on this guys case for adding Starting Strength. There is an official SS app but all it does is calculate warmup sets. A full app is supposed to be coming...

    Now back to the training program!

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    Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    I think he was (maybe still is) very angry at the time because someone had published a full version of 5/3/1 on Amazon for kindle. It took a lot of effort to get Amazon to take it down, and it held up Wendler's own Kindle version for a long time, all the while the phoney 5/3/1 continued to sell copies.

    As to the free app; Amazon does price matching without the seller's permission, and if they find (or it's reported) that there's a lower price version of the same product out there, they match it, even if it's free. They don't like to lose.

    The comments on the App indicate that people bought it for $2.99 and $1.99, so it wasn't always free.

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    Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    When Wendler made that comment it was $1.99 for the App. He had every eight to be angry that his name was on something being sold for profit.

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    What's a smart way of incorporating heavy singles into my workouts? I'm currently doing Boring But Big as my accessory. But I want to get readjusted to handling heavier weights, particularly on my bench press. I'm overthinking things here, I'm sure... But would appreciate your input.

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    Re: Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    In 531 for Powerlifting, Wendler swaps week 1 and week 2, so for a 4-week cycle, you then have heavy week/light week/heavy week/light week. He prescribes heavy singles after you complete your work sets on the heavy weeks. You might want to look into that.

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    Thanks for your input. I think I'll do another round of BBB for my bench this cycle, then I'll transition to the 531 for PL template on that lift.

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    Re: Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    Wendler has a post on 5/3/1 and extra singles here:
    http://www.jimwendler.com/2012/11/53...rent-approach/

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    Re: Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    Wendler's new book is out in E-book format now. Just ordered it so I don't have an opinion yet.

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    I bought this book awhile back and I've finished my 2nd month of the program. So far I really love it.

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    Re: Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    I love the new book "Beyond 5/3/1" but I believe anyone who hasn't read the 1st or 2nd edition of 5/3/1 or is familiar with the program would be lost. There are a ton of new templates and 5/3/1 varieties but there is very little about the original 5/3/1. It is definitely not a book for the beginner who does not know much about the 4 main lifts. They will have to look elsewhere for tips,form,etc as this book assumes you are already familiar with them.

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    Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    We are doing 5/3/1 for our strength portion at my crossfit. I had done this on my own so am familiar with the program. I had the book printed out somewhere, but can't find it. Anyways my question is when you do the final round, of say deadlifts, the round where it's at least 3 or 5 or 1, but more if you can, you don't drop the weight and reset, correct? Meaning, if I do 4 in a row, touch and go, til I can't anymore, then that's 4, right? Some people do 1, drop it ( this is allowed at crossfit, I do not drop it), pick it up again, etc, and then count how many times. Which is correct??? I'm assuming I am.

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    Jim Wendler's 5-3-1

    Quote Originally Posted by "Bernernewf" post=1016064
    We are doing 5/3/1 for our strength portion at my crossfit. I had done this on my own so am familiar with the program. I had the book printed out somewhere, but can't find it. Anyways my question is when you do the final round, of say deadlifts, the round where it's at least 3 or 5 or 1, but more if you can, you don't drop the weight and reset, correct? Meaning, if I do 4 in a row, touch and go, til I can't anymore, then that's 4, right? Some people do 1, drop it ( this is allowed at crossfit, I do not drop it), pick it up again, etc, and then count how many times. Which is correct??? I'm assuming I am.
    Hard to say. With deadlifts, many people set it down and reset between reps anyway, so there's a natural pause as you stand and then reset the grip. With other exercise, like bench press, I would say it would be fine to hold it paused at the top to 'take a second' before hitting another rep or two, but not racking and unracking.

    I don't think either way is a yes/no. I think you are correct in spirit, but with the deadlift example it's not always clear cut. In theory, a deadlift is supposed to start from a dead stop, so many people don't like touch and go. I'm okay with it as long as you are bouncing, but that's just me.

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    Agreed w\ Roland here. I think the overall point is to create a standard, standard for the lifter. There's going to be some variance depending on the individuals goals and preferences but you're striving for improvement over time along through that consistent individual standard.

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